artists, being in a culture where artists are driving, and where a huge amount of them is a healthy environment. >> you are making it safer. push, push. that is better. when i start thinking, i see it actually -- sometimes, i do not see it but when i do, it is usually from the inside out. it is like watching something being spawned. you go in, and you begin to work excavate play with the dancers, and then things began to emerge. you may have a plan that this is what i want to create. here are the ideas i want to play with, but then you go into the room and there maybe some fertile ideas that are becoming manifest that are more interesting than the idea you had initially set out to plan.